Media Futures recently interviewed Dr Brown at the AMI CX Summit
Here’s a snap shot summary of what Dr Brown had to say –
1. Question : How does Customer Culture drive customer experience?
Response : This involves a test and the test is what happens when things go wrong for the customer. Two things can initially happen, either you dismiss the problem or you are dragged begrudgingly to address the issue. The smart way is to ask how can we fix the customers problem.
There is a good example of the right way to handle the customer experience.
In this case a bike retailer in the USA. The story goes like this. A husband was having a birthday and the wife selected a new bike at a well known bike shop, Chris Zane Cycles which is renowned for customer service. Across the road was a restaurant, the wife was to take the husband to dinner and afterwards come across the road to the bike shop, point out the bike to the husband and say it’s yours…happy birthday. The bike had not been sold, but the responsible person had forgotten to put the bike in the window. The customer had paid a 50% deposit on the bike - $400 After dinner the husband and wife did indeed come across the road to the bike shop and you guessed it…..no bike to be seen, it had be sold and removed from the window. The wife rang the manager of Chris Zane cycles. The manager immediately went to see the wife, offered a 50% discount on another bike and vouchers for a meal for two at the same restaurant.
The wife was delighted and became an advocate for life. But
the interesting thing is the person from the back roomwho removed the bike from
the window persoanlly wrote a cheque to Chris Zane Cycles as compensation as it
was that person’s mistake and should not have removed the bike from the window.
The cheque is now framed and on display in a frame at Chris Zane cycles. This
is a test of culture. What we do directly impacts the Customer Experience .
2. Question : How do we confront superior CX and make it profitable?
Response: The first thing is to help everybody in the business develop a customer mindset. We know that between 40 to 70 % of buyers leave their supplier just because they think the supplier does not care. There needs to be training and development within organisations that says we expect you to to care about our customers. It is relatively inexpensive to put in place yet it has a big impact on customer retention. You can actually measure what it means to lose a customer and the impact on the business. The other take out is that people start to look at their processes and what they are actually doing in the business and what helps or inhibits the customer. In the banking and insurance industry as an example they have tried to simplify the legalese and jargon and make it simpler for the sales person to explain the policy and easier for customers to understand. The benefit to the business is a reduction in costs and a simpification of the process. The customer experience is superior and you are doing it in a way that is profitable.
3. Question : Is crowd funding the new currency in the CX chain, does this generate new loyalty streams?
Response: I think it can. The sustainability of loyalty streams is yet to be proven but one example of it working is a company called Naked Wines who invite customers to be a part of a new wine vintage. Members become “ Angel investors” the angel investors effectively fund the new vintages of boutique wineries. "Angels" pay $40 per month and build up a credit against which they can buy the new vintage wines from their favourite wineries.By connecting with the boutique vineyards they are interested in and becoming involved in new ventures and forward funding. In return they enjoy the new wine releases in which they have invested.
This is a good example of crowd funding.
4. Question: What is the difference between a Chief Customer Officer and the Traditional Marketing Director?
Response: The big difference is that the Chief Customer Officer has a role to help the business in superior customer experience across all touch points and look at ways to redesign the experience and improve it. The CX officer needs to be involved in the entire customer culture. It’s about the delivery of value and customer experience. The Marketing Director has traditionally been a function rather than across the whole business and has been a targetted approach for campaigns and new product developments. The CX officer requires a broader outlook and a customer culture which marketing should have lead but which has not lead in that direction. There is a big difference between the two.
Media Futures undertook this interview as an update on trends and thinking within the broader communications industry.
The aim is to be more predictive and how that effects future media models and audiences.
The payback to companies, organisations and advertisers is to be more precise in how they go to market and be able to operate more effectively.
If your media policy, media strategy, media planning and media buying have not addressed Customer Culture and Customer Experience it is worth investigating this important sector.
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Wednesday 30 October 2019
Credit to CEBIT 2019 for arranging this interview
Here's what Stephen had to say.
Q 1. Has social media peaked? Is there too much of it?
I don’t think social media has peaked.There are still a lot of people in the world who don’t have the internet. In many ways social media is useful like electricity and water. Facebook has 2 .6 billion users and there are 7 billion people on the earth so in that sense there is a long way to go. Social media absorbs our attention and has AI to support it.
Anything of too much can be bad and there are limits and there are limits and how it interfaces with your psychology and emotions.Some of that is not understood and we are starting to understand it.
It can be disconnecting and alarming, like the telephone, how can you talk on that contraption for so long and you cant see them. Humans are adaptable.
Is there too much social media..... I don’t think so, but we need the right kind and right quality of social media.
Q 2. With the recent investigations into social companies, has the integrity of the social sector been damaged?
It depends on your perspective as a user, as a social scientist or an advertiser or government.
They all have slightly different perceptions. We have left the age when social media was universally good.
Thats behind us. There is good and bad in the internet and social media.We tend not to understand the bad things and if we do not understand them then we don’t know how to put in mitigations.
I urge companies like Google and Facebook to open up their platforms and ask the experts to come in and ask what good and bad effect is this having on individuals, societies, politics, how opinions get formed. Some are easy to identify and can be removed but it’s the subtle effects those are the ones we need to understand more deeply.
Q 3. How can SME make money from social media if a bidding system exists?
Facebook is pretty good as a platform and they and others have built tools to reach audiences. Before the internet if you were a coffee shop as an example you could not afford to run TV advts or radio advts or place newspaper advts, the audiences were too big and the advts too expensive.
Social media is built for the long tail of small business that traditional media could not build for.
The fact it is a bidding system should not make any difference as its a sustainable business and if a level is not found then prices come down. There is tension in an auction and small business should not be at a disadvantage to big business.
Q 4. How far can social media go? What are its limits?
The key insight from social media is that it taps into a human desire, to be connected to other people and it uses technology to do that.
There is a lot more energy left in social, we have not seen the end of it.
There are 2.5 billion smart phones now,10 years ago there were none. Theres a long way to go.
Its based on what people want to know. Whats going on in my world.The things that are disruptive and exciting are the advancement of data privacy and and consumers will have more control. The things to watch for the future is virtual technology like VR I phones. As an example if my friend is in Bali I can go surfing on VR with that friend.
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