Chief Technology Officer of Symantec at Cebit Sydney held Tuesday 15th May 2018
Dr Thompson’s comments are very relevant to the media industry given the rise of social and online media plus the potential for cyber crime associated with these mediums
Interview topic -
" A global perspective on the coming trends in cyber security and how significant innovation, deep integration and new approaches can thwart the growing proficiency of cyber criminals"
Q 1. A system to analyse risk- Is it fool proof ?
Dr Thompson -
Humans have always had an instinctual view around risk in the physical world.
Its something we feel, like intuition, but when we move into technology it’s a little different. Most people have grown up not with seeing the signals of risk or danger such as in a website or an IOT product. They have not had the feedback enough times so that they can build that sixth sense or build that intuition themselves.
So if you look at systems that assess risk on websites, IOT devices and files as an example, Symantec is an interesting case study here.
We see trillions of artifacts a day, files, data points, websites. We have a set of algorithims AI based that we run on those artifacts and we make a guess. I say that explicitly because it is a guess. We try to quantify that risk and we monitor and see if that risk actually materialises. Is it a risk to society and people? We do forensics automatically and it has proven to be reasonably effective.
The attackers know the defenders do this and they constantly look for mechanisms to frustrate that calculation of risk. A simple example - you could figure out a website was risky if it was just registered in the last 24 hours a good indicator. The attackers know this and we rarely see a website used in an attack that is not registered for up to a year.
They realise this is now one of the indicators we are looking for. We have had to evolve those indicators and we have a robust set. This battle will rage on for a very long time as we humans versus humans.
Q 2. Being predictive in security. How up to date is the security?
Dr Thompson –
If I look at the time we spend in “Threat Intelligence” at Symantec I would argue that maybe 30% is focussed on current threats and 70% of effort is spent on predicting the future. Is this particular artifact that is not dangerous right now going to become dangerous at some point in the future. We have successes in that space like how we dealt on both enterprise product side and consumer side, dealt with the wannacry ransom ware attack. So we see places where we are making a difference in predictions in something we have never seen before and we think it’s bad. But there is so much as an industry we can continue to learn, especially from the field of psychology. How does one person trust another in face to face transactions. What is it that instills that trust. You might be introduced by a friend but some things we don’t understand like small details such as facial gestures or something about how you phrase a word. There is a lot to mine in that and the realm of what psychology understands and it will be incredibly important to us as we try to finger print the individuals that create dangerous artifacts.
Q 3. Enterprise security versus personal security. Is there more potential in personal security?
Dr Thompson – I think both constituents need a lot of help. The business needs to think about it’s assets, intellectual property, it’s information, it’s data and it’s user data but it has to consider the humans that work for the enterprise and they have to consider for these humans that work for the business, is that their security hygiene matters. For businesses you will see increasing focus on individual hygiene even when they are not at work. Seperately there has been a real awakening over the last 3 to 4 years as there is now the need to think about personal security where as in the past they had not.
They would think about it if something bad happened to them or someone they know, but now the average person reads about security in the media so often they probably know someone who for instance has gone through a ransom ware attack. Their digital safety they know is important but they don’t know how to defend yet.
On the Norton side of the house we are creating a digital safety platform that will provide security against things like dangerous files, dangerous locations, protection for privacy and protection for the home . So huge potential on both sides I think.
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Wednesday 30 October 2019
Credit to CEBIT 2019 for arranging this interview
Here's what Stephen had to say.
Q 1. Has social media peaked? Is there too much of it?
I don’t think social media has peaked.There are still a lot of people in the world who don’t have the internet. In many ways social media is useful like electricity and water. Facebook has 2 .6 billion users and there are 7 billion people on the earth so in that sense there is a long way to go. Social media absorbs our attention and has AI to support it.
Anything of too much can be bad and there are limits and there are limits and how it interfaces with your psychology and emotions.Some of that is not understood and we are starting to understand it.
It can be disconnecting and alarming, like the telephone, how can you talk on that contraption for so long and you cant see them. Humans are adaptable.
Is there too much social media..... I don’t think so, but we need the right kind and right quality of social media.
Q 2. With the recent investigations into social companies, has the integrity of the social sector been damaged?
It depends on your perspective as a user, as a social scientist or an advertiser or government.
They all have slightly different perceptions. We have left the age when social media was universally good.
Thats behind us. There is good and bad in the internet and social media.We tend not to understand the bad things and if we do not understand them then we don’t know how to put in mitigations.
I urge companies like Google and Facebook to open up their platforms and ask the experts to come in and ask what good and bad effect is this having on individuals, societies, politics, how opinions get formed. Some are easy to identify and can be removed but it’s the subtle effects those are the ones we need to understand more deeply.
Q 3. How can SME make money from social media if a bidding system exists?
Facebook is pretty good as a platform and they and others have built tools to reach audiences. Before the internet if you were a coffee shop as an example you could not afford to run TV advts or radio advts or place newspaper advts, the audiences were too big and the advts too expensive.
Social media is built for the long tail of small business that traditional media could not build for.
The fact it is a bidding system should not make any difference as its a sustainable business and if a level is not found then prices come down. There is tension in an auction and small business should not be at a disadvantage to big business.
Q 4. How far can social media go? What are its limits?
The key insight from social media is that it taps into a human desire, to be connected to other people and it uses technology to do that.
There is a lot more energy left in social, we have not seen the end of it.
There are 2.5 billion smart phones now,10 years ago there were none. Theres a long way to go.
Its based on what people want to know. Whats going on in my world.The things that are disruptive and exciting are the advancement of data privacy and and consumers will have more control. The things to watch for the future is virtual technology like VR I phones. As an example if my friend is in Bali I can go surfing on VR with that friend.
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